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NYC24:
How was the area when you came to La Marqueta?
Bernard Lifschultz: The area was different 50 years ago. The area
turned Latino/Puerto Rican in the 50s. It was predominantly Irish/Jewish
prior to turning Latino. I was born here in Manhattan, not far from
here, so I was familiar with the area. My parents grew up here,
too, so I was very familiar with the area.
NYC24: What was East Harlem
like when La Marqueta opened?
Bernard Lifschultz: This area was like a suburb of Manhattan.
When people wanted to come to the country, they would come up here.
It was not built up as you see it now. There was a lot of empty
space. It was considered a middle-class neighborhood many years
ago.
NYC24:
How was business in La Marqueta when you came in 1945 after WWII?
Bernard
Lifschultz:
It was extremely busy, it was jammed, and you would have to fight
your way through to come in to La Marqueta. People of different
ethnicity came to look for their own food that you couldn’t get
elsewhere in the city.
NYC24:
Was it the same kind of vendors who sold their groceries back then
as it is today?
Bernard Lifschultz: No, originally La Marquata was composed of individual
merchants, each was a specialist in his field. We had a man who
did nothing but selling tomatoes. Another guy sold eggs, and one
sold onion? - specializing in their particular product.
NYC24: Why did things start to go wrong for La Marqueta?
Bernard
Lifschultz: What happened was that there was a big fire, a lot of
break-ins and the place deteriorated. The city, who owned the place,
never did anything about it so it just kept going down and down
and down.
NYC24:
Why did you stay in La Marqueta?
Bernard
Lifschultz: I saw a future in La Marqueta and I hoped it would be
renovated and go back to what it one was. And eventually it will
be and I am a very patient person (laughs). I have a lot of staying
powers.
NYC24:
Haven’t you ever tried to sell anything but bacalao?
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Bacalao
is dry, salted codfish
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Bernard Lifschultz: When I originally came here I sold nothing but
eggs. My father was an egg man and I come from a long line of egg
people. But then there was not enough market for eggs so I started
to sell cheese and coconuts. People were asking for that kind of
stuff, they were really asking for it. And then I started to sell
bacalao.
NYC24: What exactly is bacalao?
Bernard
Lifschultz: Bacalao is dried codfish, treated in Canada
and shipped and sold all over the world.
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In
the 50s La Marqueta was the biggest market on the East Coast.
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NYC24:
How much have the supermarkets in the area hurt the business in
La Marqueta?
Bernard
Lifshcultz: Originally there were only a few supermarkets here in
Spanish Harlem. They were all afraid to open because of all the
crime. It’s only here lately they have come and they have taken
a lot of clients. That
is of course another problem on top of all the others we have had.
They have opened on 125th Street. but I just hope that the customers
will come back sooner or later.
NYC24:
But what can the customers get here that they can’t get in a supermarket?
Bernard
Lifschultz: They got Benny here (laughs) and they get bacalao, which
is far more expensive in the supermarkets. So, you know, we help
them save a lot of money.
NYC24: You are 80 years old. Why haven’t you retired yet?
Bernard
Lifschultz: I don’t want to sit home and twiddle my thumbs. I like
the atmosphere here, and I like the people, so even if I don’t have
to come to work every day I come because I enjoy being here. I like
to be productive.
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Benny
is not planning his retirement
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NYC24:
You have done the same type of work for more than 50 years now.
Haven’t you ever dreamt of doing something completely different
from what you are doing now?
Bernard Lifschultz: I am not a very aggressive
person and I was quite satisfied with living a middle-class life.
If I was younger I would make improvements but at this stage of
the game it doesn’t make any sense. But if I were younger I would
go on the Internet and advertise this stuff [points at his bacalao
stand] because a lot of people don’t even know it’s available. I
am sure that someone with a little more ambitions than I have now
could do very well.
NYC24: How long are you going to keep on
working?
Bernard Lifschultz: As long as Benny is alive
he will be working. So I guess only the Lord knows.
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